A Science-Based Morning Routine
In our first episode of 2025, we’re diving into one of the biggest wellness trends—morning routines. From drinking water and getting sunlight to cold plunges and journaling, we’re breaking down which habits are actually backed by science and which ones are just Instagram fluff. We’ll share simple, evidence-based tips to help you build a morning routine that boosts your energy, mood, and focus—no three-hour rituals required. Grab your coffee (or water bottle), and let’s kick off the year with habits that actually work!
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Juna: [00:00:00] Happy New Year, everyone. Hey,
Eddie: make the noise like
Juna: Can, can you do that noise again? What noise is that?
That was Eddie's attempt at a New Year's noise. I don't know. Do you mean like the, like the little blowers. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Eddie: Hey, you know, this is our first episode of 2025.
Juna: Oh my gosh. New Year's is one of the biggest times for setting health goals. This year, we wanted to talk all about something that a lot of people try to revamp in the new year.
They try to start a new morning routine.
Eddie: So, Yuna, you've been telling me, and I cannot corroborate this, that people actually go online to watch other people's morning rituals.
Juna: Yeah, it's a big, big trend.
Eddie: Like, all right, wait a minute, let me just get this straight. I know what I need to do in the morning to get out.
Juna: Yeah.
Eddie: I'm supposed to stop. Oh, I don't. I learned so much from our podcast, so I, I don't know enough. You clearly
Juna: don't [00:01:00] know.
Eddie: I don't know. and wait a minute, who's going to teach me?
Juna: So look, this is what you do, right? The person wakes up in the morning, sets up their tripod and camera, gets back into bed, films themselves waking up in the morning.
That's the funniest part to me. And then anyways, these people will make these long videos about basically how they are, Doing their sauna session, then they go into the cold plunge, then they meditate, then they exercise, then they make their celery juice, then they take their supplements, then they talk to their shaman, then they I don't know, there's just like a lot going on.
Wait, and
Eddie: I'm supposed to watch them?
Juna: Yeah, you watch them all, and they're like, this is what I do. To be successful. Like this is how I set up my day for success. And of course it like takes three hours and you're like, who has three hours in the morning to be spending on their morning routine? All
Eddie: right.
So who's actually watching these videos? Because clearly I am not.
Juna: Eddie, they're like one of the most popular videos on like fitness and health content.
Eddie: Okay. So what are we going to offer the listeners [00:02:00] today?
Juna: Also today. I was curious for myself, I was like, what part of these morning routines actually is backed by science?
Wait, wait, there's
Eddie: science to the
Juna: Yes, Eddie, there's science! Okay,
Eddie: okay.
Juna: There is science to parts of it. And then which parts are just actually BS and people just trying to look cool on Instagram. Which, as you can imagine, is a lot of it. So on today's episode, What should you be doing when you wake up? Do you really need a sauna?
Yeah. or a cold plunge, or a shaman, or a bullet journal, and, or
Eddie: all of the above in that exact
Juna: order, or all of the above. And how do you set yourself up for success? I'm Yuna Gyata,
Eddie: and I'm Dr. Eddie Phillips, associate professor at Harvard Medical School.
Juna: And you're listening to Food We Need to Talk, the only podcast guaranteed to get your day started right.
No sauna required. No cold flush required. No money required. No journal required. No exercise required. Every single time, just by [00:03:00] listening. Before we start, we want to take a moment to work on one of our goals for the new year. Our first goal, Which is
Eddie: to get to 2, 000 reviews.
Juna: You guys, please. Can we do it?
We're so close. I think we're like, 29 away or something. 28 away. Something like that. Very, very, very close. So thank you so much for helping us with our goal. And the significance of
Eddie: this is purely ego?
Juna: No, a magical door actually opens when we hit 2, 000 reviews and our podcast gets Blast it out to everybody in the world.
Actually, it does
Eddie: help the quote algorithm.
Juna: It helps the quote algorithm, the gods, as it were, of Apple podcasts. But more importantly, you guys, it just makes us feel good. That's why we do it. It's not the only reason that does sound terrible, but thank you guys in advance. And Eddie is going to actually read one of our reviews.
Eddie: Yes. And this comes from Lana 2010. Two. The [00:04:00] letter is T O. Okay. 2010 2. Okay.
Juna: Maybe I'll say like 2010 2012, because it gets cut off, so I don't know where it's 2010
Eddie: 2 something. Ah, okay. Thank you, Lana. Who writes, I enjoy listening to Juan. All right, I had the soft J in there. Um, uh, yes, the most common spell correction.
Her phone must
Juna: autocorrect Una to Juan. Right.
Eddie: Right. Una becomes Juan almost all the time. I enjoy listening to Juan, Una, and Eddie explain and give advice based on science. Not on sponsors recommendations. I've literally been listening to them for three years. She said over three years. And I even went back to listen to the older episodes too.
Juna: Never miss
Eddie: an episode. Thank you, Lana.
Juna: Oh my god. Thank you, Lana. That's so nice. Even though you called me Juan. Which, Starbucks, they always think my name is Juan, even though I say J U N A. I think their brain just like auto corrects to J U A N. [00:05:00] So then they're like, Latte, for Juan, and then I go to get it, and they're like, Are you Juan?
They're always so mad at me, and I'm like, Okay, my name could be Juan, you don't know.
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Eddie: Okay Eunice, so you're going to explain to me what's wrong with my unscientifically backed morning routine and what I should be doing to live a full and productive and happy life.
Juna: Clearly up until this point you've been very unproductive. Uh
Eddie: huh. And I'm
Juna: going to turn it around today. All right.
Eddie: Okay,
Juna: so I was very intrigued by all the things that people say we should do at our morning routines because as I have mentioned, a lot of people say that you should do a lot of things and they take a lot of time.
And if you see a three hour morning routine and you're like, I don't have three hours, then you're just like, I'm not going to try any of it. I'm not going to do anything. I'm going to roll out of bed, take out my phone, and then go to work. [00:07:00] And that's also not the ideal. So. I really wanted to find a doable morning routine that was backed by evidence and that made people feel good for their whole day.
And so the first thing that you should do as soon as you wake up you guys.
Eddie: Sound effect.
Juna: Oh. Thanks for the sound effect. The first thing you should do as soon as you wake up is drink water. And is there anything special about drinking water in the morning?
Eddie: Probably not particularly. Except most likely you have not been drinking a lot of water overnight.
That's the
Juna: thing.
Eddie: I actually do keep a water bottle next to my bed.
Juna: Okay. Do you wake up in the middle of the night?
Eddie: Yeah, of course I do.
Juna: Oh, okay. I never wake up.
Eddie: Oh, I
Juna: sleep all the way through.
Eddie: You're blessed. But if I do get up and my throat's a little dry, I might wet my lips or have a, have a little sip.
But most of us, 47%, according to the literature. are not drinking enough water in general, and certainly overnight, [00:08:00] you're not going to be hydrating well. So it's time to get out your water bottle.
Juna: And if you sweat overnight, you can actually get very dehydrated while you sleep. So that's another reason it's really important.
And I think the biggest thing is that it helps you get a head start on your water because when your day starts and it gets very busy, gets very crazy, oftentimes you forget to drink water and it totally makes sense. And so if you start in the morning by drinking, I have friends that drink a 32 ounce.
Bottle of water every morning when they wake up.
Music: Mm hmm.
Juna: I know a lot of other people drink 16 ounces Either way, you're getting a huge head start on your day. And if you're not Dehydrated you're going to think better throughout the day. You're going to perform better. You're going to be more alert Physical
Eddie: performance we're talking about as well, right?
Juna: Yeah, so like If you're working out, if you're moving stuff, if you're going up and down the stairs, you're less likely to get injured. So there's just so many things that water is very, very important for. And if you need to put lemon in it to make you like it better. You know how a lot of people [00:09:00] drink hot lemon water in the morning?
Is there a reason, scientific reason to put lemon in it? Probably not. But if you like the way it tastes better and it makes you more likely to drink the water.
Eddie: So it's interesting, I will reflect in this episode on one of my favorite morning rituals, if I get to do it based upon the weather and the light, which is to bike to work, and part of my biking to work, it's about four and a half miles, it takes me 20 plus minutes, is I Have a water bottle with me and it's approximately 20 ounces.
So I guess I do hydrate and I probably hydrate much better on the days when I am biking and, and actually have the water bottle with me because of course you have a water bottle. You know why? There's a water bottle carrier.
Music: There's a holder and I, you know, so,
Eddie: um, it's interesting. I had not thought until we were talking about this, about the benefits of drinking the water in the morning and then I fill it up again.
Juna: Yeah. It's the same way. Like I drink way more water when I work out. Because I drink a whole bottle while I'm there. [00:10:00] And if I don't work out, I literally forget to drink water because I just don't get thirsty. So it's a similar thing. And there's some kind of ritual that prompts you to drink water. So I've been really trying to make sure that I do it as soon as I wake up.
I just like, don't feel thirsty when I wake up, but I shouldn't be like, is this just when I drink a whole mason jar of water? It's like 16 ounces and that's it.
Eddie: And many of us, is it most of us, uh, drink some sort of caffeinated beverage in the morning? Yes. Which can induce some diuresis, which is fancy for making you pee.
Music: Yeah.
Eddie: So you might end up behind. Right. So, maybe chase the coffee with, with the water.
Juna: Yeah. And your bike ride to work, Eddie, actually relates to our next point,
Music: which
Juna: actually kills two birds with one stone, and it's going to be taking a 20 to 30 minute walk outside the park. ideally in sunlight. And there's two parts of this.
So there's the movement part and there's also the sunlight part. But I want to talk about the sunlight part first because that's my fave. So within 30 minutes of waking up, getting sunlight is [00:11:00] going to really help to reset your circadian rhythm. And I just think that's so cool because we all have this internal clock.
I just think it's cool that we have an internal clock. I think that's awesome. And
Eddie: it's actually, we've talked about this on some other episodes, it's actually the clock is set off by the light, not just hitting even your eyes, but even your skin.
Juna: Yes, even your skin, not just your eyeballs. And the light dark cycle of the sun is what keeps our bodies synchronized with the day, right?
And there's two times when the light you get can really, really affect your circadian rhythm. And that's in the morning when you first wake up and right before you go to bed.
Eddie: Ah. So, from what we've researched, what's cool is that when you get the morning sun, notice I changed it into people are going to do this, and your body receives that morning light, and if it's not sunny out, still go outside and get the morning light, it will [00:12:00] actually advance your circadian rhythm by up to an hour.
Which means that the next day you may actually be feeling okay as you wake up a few minutes earlier.
Juna: Yeah. And
Eddie: that's generally better for us.
Juna: And it also might help you go to bed on time. So I know a lot of people will have trouble falling asleep.
Music: And if
Juna: you get sunlight in the first 30 minutes of waking up, it really helps you to be sleepy when you need to be sleepy and actually going to bed.
Music: Mm hmm.
Juna: And if you get light, not sunlight, but usually phone light or computer light close to your bedtime, it does the opposite thing, causes a phase
Eddie: delay.
Juna: And that will actually keep you awake for longer. So you can delay your phase every day if you are on your phone late at night and you can advance it in the morning when you wake up and see sunlight.
And
Eddie: of course, there's so many things, you know, we're kind of the. Lesser habit, meaning using the computer late at night, it will actually delay your sleep by up to two hours.
Juna: Yeah, I know. So it's kind of like,
Eddie: you get [00:13:00] dragged from like, I want to, I wanted to go to bed at 10pm, then here it is midnight and I'm still jazzed and awake.
But there are ways also of blocking the light. And I don't know if you're comfortable with this, but you know, but maybe post a picture of yourself wearing your beautiful Blue light no one can
Juna: have these photos My friends do have blackmail photos of me wearing my blue light blocking glasses that look like orange like hilarious goggles But what I was going to say is we're actually going to be talking all about this in our bonus episode today Which is our nighttime routines The most science backed nighttime routine.
So if you guys want to hear about that, that will be in the bonus that's coming out next week Mm
Music: hmm
Juna: But suffice it to say in the morning, get out into the sun as early as you can. Like if you can wake up, drink water and get out into the sun. That is perfect. And even if it's overcast, there is so much more light in an overcast day than there is in artificial light.
So if you just turn on the lights in your room, even if it looks dark out because it's overcast, there is way, way, [00:14:00] way more light outside than there is in your room. So I just want to say, like, it's very hard to replicate sunlight indoors. Even if you get one of those sun lamps, it can try, but it will never get close to the brightness of the sun.
So being outside is going to be the most ideal. And, Eddie, we have the benefit of moving, which is also very important. Ah,
Eddie: yes. Yes. So exercising, even for five to ten minutes, just to kind of get the body moving, it could be a little bit of a walk. So once again, as Eunice said, like, killing two birds with one stone, getting out and walking.
A little stretching, that's going to get, well, you demonstrably your blood flowing. Um, it also improves your mood and your energy. And if you're counting your steps for the day, why not kind of blast off with a thousand steps, about a hundred steps to the minute, you know, take your 10 minutes and, and get in your first bunch of steps.
Juna: Well, you know, also during the day, [00:15:00] it's very hard to get your steps in. So back when I was unemployed, you guys, back in the day, it was so easy to get my steps in. I would literally take like, I don't know, I would walk for hours. I would walk to the grocery store, I would walk to the gym. And it was awesome.
And now that I have a job, it freaking sucks. Uber everywhere! Uber, Uber, Uber. Because, ain't nobody got time, okay, ain't nobody got time, I don't have time to take the bus, I'm like, I literally am so swamped, and on the days when I go into the office, I literally walk like 2, 000 steps a day, because nobody takes breaks, I even don't, I feel awkward, I'm like, I'm working, there's a lot to do, and then I work in a very busy, populated part of Boston, where you can walk five minutes to every lunch place on the planet.
Oh,
Eddie: so you don't even have to go ten minutes to find that. Yeah, no.
Juna: It's like a five minute walk to every place that anybody gets food. And then a five minute walk back. And then you're sitting all day. So,
Eddie: let's have you get in a bunch of steps first [00:16:00] thing in the morning. As you're collecting your light.
And going for a walk with your bottle of water.
Juna: And I think this is one thing that pets can really help with. Because since I got my doggo, he's a very little dog. He weighs nine pounds. So like he needs to go out as soon as he wake up. So the first thing I do every morning is basically go to the dog park and watch my dog run around for a few hours.
An hour, and I do some walking too, because I walk around the perimeter, but at least I'm standing. I'm standing for an hour, you know what I mean? In the sunlight.
Eddie: They don't have a bench for you to They don't have a bench. Okay.
Juna: Yeah, no, I'm not, I'm not Can you imagine, like, I bring my chair, he's talking about the fact that I bring my chair to the dog park in the evening.
Joke is on you, there's no more evening play hours because it's dark now. But in the morning, I stand and chat with my pals. That's another thing, you guys, I socialize in the morning, also very important for health. Ah, yes. But, the next thing that we want to talk about now is actually the debate about whether or not we should be eating breakfast.
So, there's a lot [00:17:00] of controversial opinions. One is to skip breakfast so that you are prolonging your fasting window,
Music: and the
Juna: other is that breakfast is the most important meal of the day, and
Music: we
Juna: have those ancient proverbs that are like, for breakfast you eat like a king. And then for lunch you eat like a like a prince like a prince and then for dinner you like a popper or something like that?
Yep, right so There's kind of back and forth advice on this, but Eddie, I know that you found a study that actually looked at breakfast. So
Eddie: I'll make it really simple. Those that choose to skip breakfast, that habit is associated with overweight and obesity.
Music: Right.
Eddie: Simply put. And part of the explanation may have to do with starting with your blood sugar.
So when you have a dose of protein in the morning, it doesn't have to be like high protein, but just, you know, something with protein and. While you're at it, why not just balance your meal and have some fats and carbs all together that is going to stabilize your blood [00:18:00] sugar and it's going to keep your hunger hormones that we've talked about many times on this podcast in check because otherwise, for many of us, we're going to start to have our blood sugars go down and then you start to get hungry and then you grab the first thing that's available and then you're on your diet.
Rocky road up and down of your blood sugars spiking and falling throughout the day.
Juna: So in one study people with type 2 diabetes who had a high protein breakfast versus a high carb breakfast actually reduced their post breakfast glucose response, which is how much your blood sugar is spiking, by having the high protein breakfast.
So this might be even more important for people who have trouble regulating their blood sugar.
Music: Mm hmm.
Juna: Mm hmm. And I also just want to say that if you're thinking about like, what is a high protein breakfast, what is a high carbohydrate breakfast, the types of things that probably are going to make it harder to regulate blood sugar and are going to cause a sugar crash are going to be things like a donut.
A muffin, a [00:19:00] bagel.
Eddie: I could hear the tears. I know.
Juna: A coffee cake. I could hear the crying. Oh my god. A danish. Right?
Eddie: Or what is sold as coffee but is actually a highly sugared
Juna: drink
Eddie: depending on what you put into it.
Juna: Peppermint mocha. A pumpkin spice latte, and I'm right there with you guys, like, I'm crying with you.
Okay, it's tragic, it's very sad, but that is the truth. So as much as you can incorporate protein and fat into your breakfast, along with carbohydrates, you're really going to help moderate that glucose spike.
Eddie: And with that, you know, I think we'll take a short break. And when we're back, we'll talk about the saunas and the cold lunches and the shamans.
Juna: But before we do, you guys, if you have a friend that's also trying to revamp their morning routine, and you think that they would like this episode, please be sure to send it to them, share it with them, spread the love, and we'll see you right back after this break.[00:20:00]
Eddie: So Yuna. As we're coming back from our break, excuse me, I'm just gonna take a little water here. It's still morning and we're trying to,
Music: I was
Juna: like, why is he doing this?
Eddie: And we're, and we're trying to hydrate. I'm going to add one more and there's not a ton of literature on this, but what if you actually, as part of your morning routine, did something that makes you feel good?
Juna: So Eddie, I'm really glad you brought this up because the thing I was very interested in finding was whether or not there was any research on delaying your phone use in the morning. That's one of the biggest pieces of advice.
Eddie: You mean until you get out of bed?
Juna: Like, literally yes. Don't scroll on your phone in your bed.
Or don't touch your phone for the first hour. Don't leave your phone in your bedroom. All these kinds of rules, right? And I was like, okay, has this been studied? Couldn't find anything on it. It has not really been studied. There is obviously so many studies on lower [00:21:00] phone use overall during the day and it being associated with better mental health and like, you know, better creativity, better focus, more happiness, all these things.
But phone use specifically in the morning, couldn't find anything about it. And one of the biggest arguments people make is that if you start using your phone as soon as you wake up and you go on your TikTok and your email, whatever, you're priming your brain to be very reactive. And very stressed out.
And a lot of dopamine hits because you're like seeing all these things that are making you excited or sad or whatever. And that's the idea and I think it logically makes sense. It just hasn't been fleshed out yet in studies. But that being said, I was thinking about it and I was thinking about all the other things that people do like the sauna and the cold plunges and the journaling and the meditation.
And I think the overall gist is exactly what you said, which is picking something in the morning that sets you up mentally for your day. Has there been a study on that? No. But does it make sense? Yes. [00:22:00] No,
Eddie: no controlled shamanistic studies and, and it doesn't mean these things aren't bad. It's just that simply they have not been studied.
There's another part to this, as I realize how addicted I am to those dopamine hits, which is that a quote, notification is an invasion of your attention.
Juna: Yes.
Eddie: And we've had episodes on just that. We just
Juna: did an episode a couple months ago with Gloria Mark on attention.
Eddie: And, you know, why not, and I've done this for points in my life, devote your morning to doing something creative before the world invades your brain.
Juna: Yes.
Eddie: So, like, maybe that's the time, if you are going to journal, maybe that's the time when you can just reflect on maybe something that you dreamed or some creative process that you're doing before you start to journal. Respond to everything else because the emails that you're getting unless they're responding to your email are people that have an agenda [00:23:00] You know, they they want something of you they want your attention they want your time they want your response like why not Start the day by taking care of yourself.
Juna: Well, I don't know if you feel like this, but to me it feels like Creativity is this thing that gets Used throughout the day. And by the time you get to the end of the day, there's almost none left. So like, I always try to practice piano or guitar at the end of the day. And I'm just like, Oh, I can't, I can't do it.
And I always want to do it earlier in the day. I think it's because like, it's almost this resource that gets replenished when you sleep at night and you wake up and you have it, and then you use little bits of it throughout the day, similar to attention, right? Like Gloria Mark did tell us that attention is something that you can basically use up.
Throughout your day.
Music: Mm-hmm .
Juna: And I think it probably is related to creativity and how well you can focus and also how well you can tune out the rest of the world. And I think once you start working and you start doing all your daily tasks, it's very hard to be in a [00:24:00] place where you can feel like you can be creative with whatever you wanna do.
Like if you wanna work on your writing. Mm-hmm . You know, they always say. Is it 10 pages a day in the morning? I don't know. The morning writing session?
Music: Mm hmm.
Juna: No matter if you feel like it or not, to just write every morning is so important if you want to be a writer. I think part of it is that your attention is better, but also part of it is that your attention has not been taken up by all the other stuff throughout the day.
Music: Mm hmm.
Juna: So that's one thing. And the other thing I was gonna say is reflecting on what type of day you want to have or your goals. For example, in your journal is also going to make it more top of mind as you go throughout the rest of the day, right? So let's say you have a goal that is to be more present with the people you love And that's a goal you set for the new year if you think about that every morning before you start your day Then when your mom calls in the middle of the day, and you're like, Ugh, another call from my mom, I don't have time for this.
No,
Eddie: but that's actually fulfilling one of your goals by being present and polite with her.
Juna: Yeah, exactly, and it's [00:25:00] very easy to forget your goals. So I think journaling about them in the morning, it's not that crazy of a thing because we do know that Priming the mind for things actually does make it more likely you'll think about them later.
So, all this is to say, I don't think there's anything special about doing saunas or cold plunges, specifically in the morning versus the rest of the day, but I do think there is something to setting up your mental state in the morning to set yourself up for success. And if that means saunas for you, great.
If that means a cold plunge, great.
Eddie: Yep, if that's the place that you feel best, then we don't have studies to support it, but please, go at it.
Juna: Get in there, get in the cold, have you tried a cold plunge? I have, yeah. Okay, yeah, I want to do one too.
Music: Yeah.
Juna: That is all to say that it's up to you, and I think making your morning routines, Easy and sustainable is going to be the best because you know those days where you're super busy and you're like, I can't do my morning routine today because it's so crazy.
That's how I felt when I had a really [00:26:00] complicated morning routine. Uh huh. I was like, today's such a crazy day, I wouldn't do any of my morning routine because It
Eddie: was all or nothing? It was
Juna: all or nothing, yeah. So, I think first of all, something's always better than nothing. If you get a 10 minute walk instead of the 20 minute walk, that's better than no walk.
Eddie: And if you change your diet just a little bit and have a bit more protein? Great.
Juna: And if it's a special occasion, if it's a Friday and it's Buy Your Coffee Friday and you want peppermint mocha, great. Enjoy it.
Eddie: Enjoy it.
Juna: Yeah.
Eddie: And if you drink 10 ounces of water instead of a quart. Great. Great. Better than zero.
Right. So, you know, this is our way as we wrap up to just sort of say, first off, Happy New Year.
Juna: Happy New Year.
Eddie: Um, if you're working on your morning routine, tell us how it's going.
Juna: Tell us if you have anything that you like to do in the morning that sets your brain up for the day, because I'm curious what everybody else is doing.
And if you want to hear all about the nighttime routine, the science back nighttime routine, I should say, then we will be talking about that in next week's [00:27:00] bonus episode. So thank you so much for listening to this episode. You can find us at FoodWeNeedToTalk on Instagram and you can find the bonus episode at FoodWeNeedToTalk.
com slash membership. You can find me at the official Yuna on Instagram and Yuna Jada on YouTube and TikTok or should I say the official Juan on Instagram and Juan Jada.
Eddie: Excuse me.
Juna: Oh, he's choking on my joke on YouTube and TikTok. Eddie, where can they find you?
Eddie: They can find me trying to do a little journaling in the morning.
Juna: Oh my goodness. I'm
Eddie: gonna just add Do you
Juna: have a journal?
Eddie: I don't, but I know I certainly have the physical Okay,
Juna: okay, okay.
Eddie: The physical capacity to put pen to paper in the morning, and I think I'm gonna set that up and spend a couple of minutes when I get up in the morning.
Juna: Love it. Food, We Need to Talk is produced by Rebecca Seidel and Morgan Flannery.
Eddie: We are distributed by PRX.
Juna: We were co created by Kerry Goldberg, George Hicks, Eddie Phillips, and me.
Eddie: [00:28:00] For any personal health questions, please consult your health provider. To find out more, go to foodweneedtotalk. com.
Music: Thanks for listening!